CBL Episode #141 Gaines Tavern, Cleaned and Haunted

Want to hear what it’s like to clean a 200-year-old house where history lingers—and sometimes taps you on the shoulder? We sit down with Amber Starr to explore Gaines Tavern in Walton, Kentucky, a city-owned landmark built in 1813 that demands gentle hands, careful products, and a steady nerve. Amber walks us through the reality of maintaining original floors, why harsh chemicals are a no-go, and how seasonal shutdowns shape a deep-clean rhythm that respects the building’s age and character.

The stories come alive fast: faint footsteps in empty rooms, a flicker at the edge of sight, and a moment when a child’s hand was met by another, unseen and small. We trace the house’s layered past, from the upstairs ballroom stabbing to the orchard tragedy of Lizzie Rice, and connect those memories to the practical choices cleaners must make to protect fragile surfaces. Amber shares why she only cleans in daylight, how lamp-lit rooms complicate evening work, and what it means to be both cleaner and caretaker in a place that holds its own narrative. Along the way, we touch on regional lore—Gaines Crossing’s stagecoach days and nearby Waverly Hills—and consider how stories become part of stewardship.

There’s a business blueprint here too. Amber’s contract began with curiosity and community: a ghost walk, a conversation, and a phone call from the mayor’s office. We break down the net

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SPEAKER_02: 1:54

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SPEAKER_01: 3:58

Okay, perfect. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 4:00

So we can go by Amber Star, and she is actually going to tell us a little bit about the Gaines Tavern, which has a longstanding history in the state of Kentucky. There's a lot of things that have happened in this location on the actual property inside the building. And she was just featured in I forget what the name of the show was, one of those haunted hunter shows. Haunted Discoveries. And she's gonna tell us a little bit about that and um what it's like to clean a building that has extra spiritual entities inside. So I'm super excited.

SPEAKER_00: 4:37

Seriously, happy to be here. Hey, awesome. Tell us about so first of all, how'd you get this job? How'd you get the gig?

SPEAKER_01: 4:47

It's a very special circumstance, I guess. So the house is actually owned by our city, and they they take they own it, they maintain it, and uh they have events there, lots of different events throughout the year. They have they have tea parties there, they have some people have had baby showers and just different things like that. They do tours on Sundays and and things like that. Well, around spooky season, they have what they call the ghost walk, and they kind of go through the house and tell spooky stories. And following that one year, they had a paranormal investigation at the house.

SPEAKER_00: 5:33

Oh, I know that. I we we see that on the Discovery channel, basically. This was a local.

SPEAKER_01: 5:42

Oh, it's okay. Yeah, it wasn't televised, it was just it was just kind of a they have like a a team that comes in. Sometimes, sometimes they do it for a living, other times it's like a hobby that that people do. And they have this team come in and they sold tickets for, you know, I can't remember how much, but they sold tickets and I decided to go just because of my own personal interest in in the paranormal and things like that. And I love history too, so that house has a lot of that as well, right? And so I went to the the investigation. They usually max it out at a certain amount of people, you know, just so that there aren't too many people there. But while I was there, I met I met a girl and she we ended up becoming friends. We hit it off right away, and she was is the wife of the mayor of this town.

SPEAKER_00: 6:40

That works out this is great because this is how we network, right? Yeah, yeah, things start moving, right?

SPEAKER_01: 6:48

Exactly, yes. So we met, we hit it off, and we're still friends, and he's not the mayor anymore, but he was the mayor at the time. And it came up, it came up one time that they needed some cleaners. And he called me and said, Hey, are you up for this? And I said, Absolutely. So that's how to boom, bought it.

SPEAKER_02: 7:12

Oh, I bet you I I love that because it really does come down to connection and who you you know you collaborate with and who you network with and how you meet people. And this is a simple lead into how to land the uh a really cool contract. So Ben, how long have you been cleaning this property? Um, it's been a few years.

SPEAKER_01: 7:31

I'd say probably around two years. Okay, yeah, and it's just you that cleans it, or do you have a crew that cleans it? How does that work out? So it's just me and one other person that cleans you clean together as a team or is it solo? Yes, we work together as a team.

SPEAKER_00: 7:48

Okay, and we just go and and clean the house, but like a normal standard maintenance cleaning? Is that basically what it is?

SPEAKER_01: 8:00

It's it's basically but so the houses the house is closed. They they close it for the winter. So here in Kentucky, you know, we'll have some cold winters and and like that, and it's an older house. So they they do winterize it and they close it down usually after Christmas, and it reopens again in April. So that that first cleaning when we come in is more of a deeper clean, you know, just kind of waking everything up from the winter slumber, and then and then we go in once a month and just kind of cleaning. Yeah. Perfect. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02: 8:43

So, you know, obviously the next question is is have you seen anything while you guys were there or felt anything?

SPEAKER_01: 8:51

Yes, definitely felt yes. I'm I'm gonna, it's it's hard to discern, you know. I always second guess myself, like, did I really see that or am I or you know, like, did I really see it? But a lot of times we have the vacuum cleaner running, so I haven't heard a whole lot. Sometimes we've heard some footsteps where, like I said, it's just the two of us that were in there, so we we know where each other are at. And so it's kind of like, well, no one's in that room, and I just heard footsteps in there, like that's strange. Or I'd see something out of the corner of my eye, just kind of like a little, like a little shadow or a little a little flitter or something, you know, for my eye.

SPEAKER_00: 9:41

I know, yeah, or or I'll get like or second guessing to yourself, you're like, and you don't want to hardly tell anybody, but they came to you to talk about it, didn't they? What it's like to basically what we're doing, it's like you know, talking about I'm sure they didn't talk about what we want to talk about, which is the cleaning, yeah. Networking is awesome.

SPEAKER_02: 10:11

Are there any parts of the house that you're restricted from, or you do clean like the whole thing? There it's two levels, right? You clean the main house and then the surrounding property buildings on the property, or just the main house?

SPEAKER_01: 10:22

Just the main house. Okay. Um there's a couple other buildings on the property. There's a house they call it the cottage house, and there is, I have been in there. Actually, I we were in there when I did that, when I joined the paranormal investigation that time. And we went in there, and the cottage house is separate from the main house, and it's it's finished. So there's kind of like a like an open room on the bottom. It's like Cape Cod style, and then you go upstairs and there's and there's a room up there, but I guess it needs some repairs and things like that. So they haven't actually officially opened that. So maybe when they get that open, that'll be added on to the job as well. But like I said, it's it's mostly just the main house. We are not supposed to go down into the basement, it's it's an old basement. The home was built in 1813. What 1813? Oh, good.

SPEAKER_02: 11:16

That's old. That's really old.

SPEAKER_00: 11:18

Imagine all the people throughout the years that have serviced that house. Yeah, you are, you know, what a what an honor. I feel like honestly, what a great honor.

SPEAKER_02: 11:32

Do you have to use special products? Is there like a special request? Because I know a lot of traditional chemicals can be a little harsh, especially in a historical building. Is there was there a request for that, or you just use normal product? How does that work?

SPEAKER_01: 11:47

Well, there the bathroom is updated. That that was in addition onto the house, I believe, I'm wanting to say 2006. They put in a bathroom. Finally, finally coming into the modern. Yeah, they remodeled a bathroom in there. Plumbing. It's cutting. Because even in the kitchen, they have they have a dishwasher and a microwave, and like so they did updating to the home. But so in the bathroom, I use regular, you know, just regular cleaning products. I like to use the more eco-friendly things, nothing harsh like the Mrs. Myers is a popular one that's not as as hard. I've been wanting to try the oh, what is that stuff called? The green simply, is it no, it's not simply green. I don't know, but there's a pro green? Yes. What is it? Simple green? They're in happy beats. Yes. I haven't gotten to try that yet, but I would like to, I would like to try that. But but yeah, with the the bathroom, I use just regular cleaning products like you'd use in any other home. But we really try to stay away from the chemicals and the harsh, the harsh cleaning agents when we're when we're doing our maintenance cleans. We use mostly water. I'll put like a little tiny dab of uh of the Murphy's oil, but just like just a tiny little bit. Yeah, yeah, give it a little bit of yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 13:28

Murphy's oil is good, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 13:30

Yeah, and all the floors in there, there's only two rooms of the house where the floors are not original. Um wow, yeah. So they're floors, even the floor where someone was murdered in the oh that is that the original floor or did they change that floor out? Nope, that's the original floor, but the original floor, yeah. There was somebody.

SPEAKER_02: 13:57

Yeah, there was there was a stabbing in the room, which was upstairs. Yeah, and he there was some sort of myth happened over a wig, right? So two two men like the same girl or lady, lady, and uh one of them had wore a wig because he was balding, can you imagine, or toupee, or whatever it was. And to prove that he, you know, this other guy was more favorable, he ripped off the wig and the guy got mad, right? And stabbed him in the ballroom. Yes, which I believe traditionally was upstairs. They used to have ballrooms upstairs instead of downstairs on the main level. I don't know why we did except for fire, right? Because the kitchens used to have been a separate building along with the bathrooms. You never had any you lived in the main house, but the cooking was done in one house, and the bathroom was further off on the property, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 14:48

So even that floor is the original floor, they just painted it.

SPEAKER_00: 14:52

Oh wow, yeah, we're gonna just paint over this blood. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 14:56

I don't is is there a there's no blood print, is there? No, I'm okay. I was like, oh my god, it got cleaned up. You just you never know about such things, and maybe they left it as a you know a curiosity.

SPEAKER_00: 15:09

Do you guys know what year that was?

SPEAKER_02: 15:11

Like this was I'm looking at the notes. I don't think they wrote that down, but I I would it's I don't think the 18s, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 15:21

Oh so you know, so much history to it. It's special. Well, I imagine where you live has a lot of rich history.

SPEAKER_02: 15:32

Oh, totally, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 15:34

I mean, gosh.

SPEAKER_01: 15:36

So have you ever seen the little girl? So that is an interesting story. I've never seen her, um, but my 10-year-old daughter loves going with me to that house. So sometimes she will use noose bumps. Yeah, I know. Yeah, so sometimes she'll go with me, and you know, I give her a little swiffer and she just kind of swiffers around because that's another thing. We don't we don't use any polishing products on the on the things there, it's mostly just you know, cobwebs and and things like that. But anyway, I just give her a little swiffer and sometimes she does her thing. And there was one particular day that we were walking around and she felt someone grab her hand. Like they wanted to to like hold her hand. And she said, Mom, I just felt someone touch my hand. And I'm like, Are you sure? And she said, Yeah, yeah, someone, someone grabbed my hand. Like in a gentle way, she said. It was more of a it was more of like a gentle way, and we assumed that it was Harriet, which she was a little girl that died from pneumonia when she was four years old. And I was like, I think Harriet wanted to play with you, and she's like, Come back, Harriet, I'll play. Oh shit, serious, oh yeah, yeah. Harriet moment, but it did startle her a little bit.

SPEAKER_00: 17:12

Yeah, no kidding. I I I know that there's a house that I do, I did, I don't clean so much anymore, but and I was with somebody, and it was one of my it's one of my oldest clients, and they're a monthly as well. And both times that the both times that I went there, it happened too twice in the exact same spot. I was vacuuming like their living room, um and I felt it was on this arm. Oh yeah, it felt like they I'm like, was that a shot? And and both times Kayla was there, my employee, and she goes the second time, she goes, it happened in the same spot, Jamie. Oh, that's creepy. Like maybe it was just a crap. You second guess yourself, maybe I don't understand why I would feel that. I try to rationalize, like maybe I pulled something right, but both times, month apart, or every four weeks, yeah, I felt that in the exact same spot. So Harry.

SPEAKER_02: 18:50

Are you because this is technically a commercial clean, are you doing this at night? Are you guys cleaning during the day? How is that working out?

SPEAKER_01: 18:57

We clean during the day. Most of the time they do their tours on the weekends, so so there's not usually people there during the week. We and we do it during the day really just for convenience and scheduling purposes. It another thing to consider is this home was built in 1813, so there's no overhead lighting, right? Yeah, so if we go in there, it's it's lamps. You're doing it by candlelight. Right.

SPEAKER_02: 19:26

I was gonna say the same thing. I'm like, oh my gosh, that that's yeah, that's right. Because we we actually here we are on the internet. I mean, all of this takes electricity, so that that's an interesting correlation for sure. I I forgot about you know how the only mod so does the bathroom have electricity then, or did they not put electricity in that?

SPEAKER_01: 19:46

So the whole house does have electricity, but in the evenings it's lit with with lamps and not you can't just walk into a room and and flip. Well, they're not oil. That would be a good idea. Yeah, it but really rev up the theme. Yeah, they they look they look older, you know. They they kind of keep it with the with the period, with the their style, but but there is electric in the house. It just it just you don't you can't just go in and flip a switch. So it's like you gotta go in and turn all the little lamps on, and even then with with the house being so big, it's like it's not lit up, you can't really see what you're doing. So it it's just hard to see it in the evenings.

SPEAKER_00: 20:35

So how tell us about the interview? How did you get questioned about that? Like, how did that even come?

SPEAKER_02: 20:42

Did they reach out to you or did you reach out to them?

SPEAKER_01: 20:44

How did that work? They they reached out to me actually. So there's a there's a lady, her name, her name's Paula, and she I don't know if she is paid by the city or if she's volunteer. I don't know how that how that really works. I've never asked, but she's basically in charge of the Gaines Tavern. And she does all the all the events and she organizes everything. And she used to be the mayor here in the town, and she's not the mayor anymore, but she really she really loves that house and she she pours her heart into it, and she just she's always every every tour, every tea party, every event that they have in that house goes back into the maintenance and the and the repairs that the home needs.

SPEAKER_02: 21:38

Right.

SPEAKER_01: 21:39

And so anyway, I guess that's one of her little things that she had on the burner where this paranormal investigation team that has a show has come, and they she texted me one day and said, Hey, I have haunted discoveries coming. Would you be interested in doing an interview with them since you cleaned the house? And I'm like, Okay.

SPEAKER_02: 22:08

So did they find anything? When does the episode air? Did they find anything while you guys were there filming? Did anything happen? I know it didn't happen in the main house, but I'm curious.

SPEAKER_01: 22:18

I I have not heard. I know that this will be the only thing that I know is that this will be the first episode of season seven, and that and that they are still in the process of editing for season six. So season six hasn't even come out yet. So see how long editing takes? Takes forever. Yeah, yeah. So as soon as I hear about when it's gonna air, then you know oh how cool. That's exciting.

SPEAKER_02: 22:55

So you're gonna work this whole gains tavern into your marketing, like we specialize in haunted places or historically. Yeah, I didn't even think of that. Like a marketing angle.

SPEAKER_01: 23:09

Sorry. I am not opposed to that. I I think it's a great idea. Maybe maybe there's a niche out there somewhere for that.

SPEAKER_02: 23:18

Right. You take like a picture of like the gains house and slap it on a postcard and say we specialize in this spooky cleaning.

SPEAKER_01: 23:27

Here's your cleanings. Yeah, it sounds like something like on Beetlejuice, like we clean houses.

SPEAKER_00: 23:35

Yeah, beetle juice. Save Beetlejuice three times when you call for yeah, that's a good that's a good percent off for recurring clients only. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02: 23:47

If you dare, right?

unknown: 23:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 23:50

Oh, I think so. If you were, I I know that it just kind of fell on your lap, but if you were going to give another business owner advice on how to get a historical building and or slash a haunted building, what advice could you give them on doing the? I mean, obviously you're networking it because if you weren't this this opportunity wouldn't have landed in your lap, but exactly people who are listening just to give them some insight on what they could do.

SPEAKER_01: 24:19

Well, and that and and really that's my advice is put yourself out there, you know, business cards, networking events. I I I attended a thing yesterday where I was at a farm and I had a handful of of business cards in my pocket. I mean, I just I carry them with me everywhere. You never know who you're gonna meet. And really just putting yourself out there. And I I feel like just meeting going out and meeting the people that I did that I did meet that day, it just it just all kind of fell into place. And yeah, so that's what I say. Just just put yourself out there.

SPEAKER_00: 25:02

You never know who's connected, especially where mom and dads will be, especially someplace where mom and dads, even if you don't have children yet, or you don't have children, you just want to be out there, right? I love that that's that is such great advice. It's just that's how you it all starts. Something as simple as going to a pumpkin patch with a bunch of cards in your your pocket right now, you know, just exactly always have them on, ready to go. Yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02: 25:36

So when you're cleaning the main house, do you ever think of like wow, someone was here 200 years ago, I wonder what they were doing, type of thing, or is it just like I'm hurry up and getting out of here because I don't know if someone's gonna grab my hand?

SPEAKER_01: 25:50

No, I I would live there if I could.

SPEAKER_00: 25:54

Oh yeah, you embrace the paranormal. Yeah, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 25:59

I absolutely love it. If that house ever goes for sale, I'm buying it.

SPEAKER_02: 26:04

Oh very cool.

SPEAKER_01: 26:06

But maintenance for that. Is it still 300 acres, the whole property, or is it how we skilled again? It it's not, it's only a few acres now. It is it is very much built up around it. There's a there's a neighborhood, it's on a dead-end street. There's a neighborhood. Well, not really a neighborhood, it's not a subdivision, but it's a it's a street, and there's and there's cute little houses that line the street. The orchard is no longer there, which that's another interesting story. Sometimes I'll I'll look out the window and try to imagine where the orchard used to be. There was a pretty tragic event that happened there as well. Where right?

SPEAKER_02: 26:42

Why why don't you fill in the audience what what that event was?

SPEAKER_01: 26:47

So yeah, I don't I don't know the whole story, but I know that there was a lady out at the orchard, her name was Lizzie, trying to recall her last name. Lizzie Rice is was what her name was, and she caught herself on fire intentionally in the orchard. And it was pretty graphic and horrific for sure. Yeah, it was horrible. And she ran back to the house, to to the kitchen door, which is on the side of the of the home, and facing where the orchard would have been. And she went into the kitchen, they put her out. I think it she stayed alive a day or two, and then she succumbed to her injuries. But the the strange thing about that story is that prior to her doing that to herself, her father died of the same thing.

SPEAKER_02: 27:43

Yeah, what do they call that? Com something combustion is I'm having a brain part. What do they call that when you combust by yourself? You just kind of explode with fire. I remember reading, and the reason why I know anything about it is it was in my mom had a Guinness Book of Worlds Records from 1967. I have it floating around my house somewhere because the kids were looking at all the oddities in there. Yeah, there was someone who actually combusted, they caught on fire, and so I'm wondering what the phenomenon behind that happened. So if she ingested something, because we had a lot of weird medical advice back then. So I don't know if she it was intentional that she caught on fire or if she just was on fire and made a run for it.

SPEAKER_00: 28:27

Well, nowadays, if you look, suicide is is can be hereditary, just basically they ask that's that's always a question, you know. Whenever you go into the doctor, that they ask, you know, are you or a family member suicidal? Have you ever been or has anybody in your family? I think they go back to at least the aunt or uncles.

SPEAKER_02: 28:51

Yeah, it's that generational trauma. I guess calling it human combustion now. There was a different name in the Guinness. Uh I I know I did a quick Google search here, but yeah, that it's interesting to, you know, it's it's it's horrific. But you know, I it was 300 acres, the property size was like the size of a plantation almost. I mean, there was 300 acres, there was orchard, it was self-sufficient property, obviously. Yes, I'm curious to know a little bit more history between between him and her and what caused it, if they were both ingesting the same chemicals or what was going on to cause it. Right. I don't know if it's a natural phenomenon for people to have that happen to them, so that it's very interesting. But she didn't live very long either. She was what how old was she? I can't I'm trying to re-reference my notes and I don't see it. I don't, I honestly don't know. I'm trying to reference, I think she was a young lady, I don't think she was an older lady, right? Well well, I old then was what 30 years old was considered. Yeah, no, so it's an ancient lady because I'm not 30.

SPEAKER_00: 30:35

So yeah, it's just an interesting there's a lot of stuff that has I love it, and I I just so much rich history behind it, and it definitely correlates into what we talk about on the show here, which is you know, it just how do you get something like that? And and it's just perfect timing right now because it is October and I love everything like this, you know. Spooky.

SPEAKER_02: 31:13

So if if a ghost could leave a review about your business and your performance, what do you think they would write?

SPEAKER_01: 31:20

Well, I would hope it would be a good review. I I hope they would say, Oh, we can't we can't wait for her to come back. She does such a great job. You know, I I would I would think that they would give me a pretty good review. I sound like it. Yeah, it seems like you know, they don't really cause me too much trouble. I I know that the night. Of the paranormal investigation that I intended that I attended there, there was a gentleman that said that he was coming down the front steps and he said that he heard in his ear, get out. And he he ran out of that house. Yeah. And he stayed on the front lawn for the rest of the evening, for the rest of the night, for the rest of the investigation. And they haven't done that to me. So I I think that means they liked it. I think you liked that. No, I think that you're welcome. They haven't told me to get out.

SPEAKER_00: 32:20

Yeah. No, they like, oh, there, there's where's the little girl at? Yeah. Oh, I love it.

SPEAKER_02: 32:28

One of the ghosts that is present on this property, like any one of them, what kind of question would you ask them?

SPEAKER_01: 32:36

Oh goodness. I really just a life story. You know, I want to know all the juicy bits myself. Yeah. Yeah. But I would just ask them about their life and what it was like and and maybe what was different about the house when they lived here versus what it looks like now because it went through some remodeling. There's been people that have lived there like back in the back in the 80s and 90s, like there was a family that lived there that ran an antique shop out of it. And it's been through a lot of changes, right?

SPEAKER_00: 33:15

So and now it's back down to like it's what it's basically meant to do, you know, is tell you about the rich history of what what town is that in?

SPEAKER_01: 33:30

So it's in it's in Walton, Kentucky. So the interesting thing about that location is that we are about the halfway point between Lexington, Kentucky, and Cincinnati, Ohio.

SPEAKER_00: 33:46

So if by car you're right there, I'm I'm originally from Ohio. I'm up from north.

SPEAKER_01: 33:55

Oh yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 33:56

Yeah, up by Cleveland.

SPEAKER_01: 33:58

Okay. Yeah. So so we're about 30 minutes by car from Cincinnati. Oh, wow. Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 34:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 34:08

Yeah. So back in the back in the stagecoach days when everybody traveled by by horse and stagecoach, we were about halfway from Lexington and and Cincinnati. And so back then the house or the town wasn't called Walton. It was called Gaines Crossing. And yes.

SPEAKER_00: 34:30

So that's a good movie title for a scary movie.

SPEAKER_01: 34:37

Yeah. Would I would would stop there at the house and stay overnight. They they did have a tavern on the property, but the tavern burned down before the house was actually built. So there was a tavern there, and I believe some kind of a cabin that was where they lived. And then after the fire and the tavern burned down, then they built the big house in 1813. Uh wow. But yeah, people would would come and stop and stay and do, you know, like a bed and breakfast type. Yeah, yeah. And just tie their horse up. Yep. Yep. Tie up their horse.

SPEAKER_02: 35:23

And no fast food restaurants there. Nope. That's amazing to me. Our society, how different it is from it is now.

SPEAKER_01: 35:34

Yes. I I agree. It's so strange to have to cook something and even when we're home cooking, you can't, you you couldn't just open a box back then. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00: 35:46

It's like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 35:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 35:51

Oh gosh. Yeah. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_02: 35:55

So we ask every guest if you have any questions for us. I know sometimes people do, sometimes people don't, but I just like to throw it out there, Amber. If you have any questions for us, we're happy to answer them for you.

SPEAKER_01: 36:07

Not really. I yeah, wasn't prepared for that.

SPEAKER_00: 36:15

Yeah, no, I didn't prep. I didn't prep for that one. I always just come on here and I'm like, okay, we're doing a show. I have no idea. Oh, just that was that was a great story. I really enjoyed this. This is fun. This is a fun one. I can't wait for to hear it go out. Mm-hmm. Awesome sauce.

SPEAKER_01: 36:39

And honestly, I mean, just in our little time slot here, I mean, there's so much other other stuff that we haven't even touched on as far as the history of this house and the things that have happened there. You know, and so I encourage people, if there's not enough time on on this this section to to cover it, go and research the the Gaines Cavern. It's I mean, there's so much history here from the the Revolutionary War to the to the Civil War.

SPEAKER_00: 37:11

Oh, I know that was that I know I've been all through there and it's just such rich history. I had dogs driving through. I was going down to Florida, I was driving down to Florida or Tennessee, one of the two, and letting the dogs out was just like you you feel it, you can just feel the atmosphere of paranormal there. The paranormal. I I yeah, and you just second and you yeah, okay. Come on, dogs, let's go.

SPEAKER_01: 37:49

Absolutely, and about 45 minutes from where Walton is located, is Louisville. Some people say Louisville, some people say it's it's a continuous debate. Anyway, there they have one of the most haunted places in America, there, which is the Waverly Hills Sanatorium. Oh, okay. Here we go. Is that still operational? It is not. They they do tours, they do haunted tours and things like that.

SPEAKER_00: 38:19

That thing is going off the charts right now, yeah. With the haunted houses. Oh, I that I can't pay, I don't like to be paid, I don't pay people to hear scare the crap out of me.

SPEAKER_02: 38:32

So I can help punch you. And I don't mean to. We just cling to each other as we walk through. Well, Amber, thanks for coming on. We really appreciate it. And maybe we'll do a part two on this. Yeah, close to that.

SPEAKER_01: 38:53

There's there's plenty, plenty of content for sure.

SPEAKER_00: 38:58

I love it, and we can talk all day about cleaning. So my favorite awesome thing to do is run another business. So it was super awesome to have you on. Thank you for for your time. And yeah, do you guys have anything else?

SPEAKER_02: 39:14

I I think we've covered it all this time around. Thanks so much for coming on. It was good to see everyone. Take care. All right, bye.