Cleaning Business Life
🎙 Cleaning Business Life
Cleaning Business Life is a podcast for cleaning business owners who want more than tactics — they want clarity.
Hosted by industry leaders Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco, this show explores the real decisions behind building a sustainable, profitable cleaning company: pricing, leadership, systems, boundaries, and growth without burnout.
This isn’t a beginner podcast.
It’s for owners and operators who are already in the business and ready to think differently about how they run it.
If you’re tired of noise, hustle culture, and surface-level advice — and you want grounded conversations rooted in real industry experience — you’re in the right place.
Want to get a hold of us? Please email us at cleaningbusinesslife@gmail.com
Episodes
204 episodes
CBL EP 198 The La Perla Lesson
The La Perla LessonWhat does a $750 bra have to do with pricing a cleaning business?More than you think.In this episode of Cleaning Business Life, Shannon shares the unforgettable moment she learned one of the biggest lesso...
CBL EP 197 When Social Media Becomes a Second Job
Running a business is hard enough. Now add content creation, algorithms, constant visibility, and the pressure to always “show up” online.In this episode of Cleaning Business Life, Shannon and Jamie talk about the hidden burnout of socia...
CBL EP 196 From Solo Cleaner to CleanCon Speaker — Cheryl Hajjar’s Real Story
From Solo Cleaner to CleanCon Speaker: Cheryl Hajjar on Scaling, Trust, AI & Building a Real BrandIn this episode of Cleaning Business Life, Shannon and Jamie sit down with Cheryl Hajjar — cleaning business owner, coach, s...
CBL EP 195 She Wrote a Letter to the Owner… and Nothing Changed? (What This Reveals About Leadership)
What happens when an employee feels like their last option is to go straight to the owner for help?In this episode of Cleaning Business Life, Shannon breaks down the recent housekeeper lawsuits involving Kylie Jenner—no...
CBL EP 194 Case Update: Richard Lee Conkin — Jury Trial Set for 2026
Back in Episode 107, we broke down a shocking case out of Louisville, Kentucky involving a cleaning professional who was allegedly assaulted by a client she met through Nextdoor.In this quick update, I went directly into the Kentucky cou...
CBL EP 193 What CleanCon Is REALLY Like (From an Attendee Who Went All In)
Thinking about attending CleanCon but not sure if it’s worth it?In this episode, Shannon sits down with Natalie—an experienced cleaning business owner who attended CleanCon—to get a real, unfiltered perspective on what the event was actu...
CBL EP 192 Free Cleaning Gone Wrong: When “Exposure” Destroys Your Business
In this episode, I’m breaking down a situation that’s been happening more and more in our industry—and it needs to be talked about.A cleaning company gave away a free cleaning… and instead of appreciation, they got publicly torn apart on...
CBL Episode 191 Angie Zweiner: From Rock Bottom to Rebuilding Everything
In this episode of Cleaning Business Life, Shannon & Jamie sit down with Angie Zweiner for a raw and honest conversation about what it really takes to rebuild your life when everything falls apart.Angie opens up about overco...
CBL EP 190 Automation That Pays: What to Automate (and What Not To) in Your Cleaning Business
Automation sounds like the answer… until it creates more problems than it solves.In this episode, we’re breaking down what automation actually looks like inside a cleaning business—what saves you time and makes you money, and what just a...
CBL EP 189 Value vs Price: Why Clients Say You're Too Expensive...
If clients are telling you you're too expensive… it’s probably not your price.In this episode of Cleaning Business Life, Shannon and Jamie break down the real difference between value and price—and why so many cleaning bu...
CBL EP 188 Quote Without Fear: How to Price Cleaning Jobs Without Getting Taken Advantage Of
In this episode of Cleaning Business Life, we’re talking about something every cleaning business owner faces—but most never fully master: how to quote without fear.If you’ve ever walked into a bid feeling unsure, second-guessed ...
CBL EP 187 She Built a Cleaning Business AND a Nonprofit — Here’s Why it works.
Danelle Watts didn’t just build a cleaning business—she built a mission.After caring for her mother through illness, she turned that experience into Robin’s Helping Hands, a nonprofit offering free cleanings to those in need—all while ru...
CBL EP 186 Your Pricing Is Wrong (Cleaning Pricing That Actually Works)
If your cleaning business isn’t as profitable as it should be, your pricing might be the problem—but not in the way you think.In this episode, Shannon and Jamie break down the real issue behind undercharging in the cleaning industry. Thi...
CBL EP 185 Square Foot Pricing: What Works, What Doesn’t, and What Cleaning Business Owners Get Wrong
Square foot pricing gets talked about a lot in the cleaning industry…But is it actually the best way to price your services?In this episode of Cleaning Business Life, Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco break down the truth ab...
CBL EP 184 The Client Isn’t the Problem—Your System Is (And How to Fix It Before Raising Your Rates)
Most cleaning business owners think they have a client problem…But what they actually have is a system problem.And until that gets fixed, raising your rates will always feel risky.In this episode of Cleaning Busi...
CBL EP 183 (3 of 3) How to Start a Charity Cleaning in 15 Minutes (Simple System)
If you’ve ever thought about offering charity cleanings but didn’t know where to start—or felt overwhelmed trying to “do it right”—this episode is your answer.In this bonus segment, Shannon breaks down a simple, no-overwhelm way to set u...
CBL EP 182 ( 2 of 3) Charity Cleanings Gone Wrong-What no one tells you.
Charity cleaning sounds good—until it goes wrong.In this episode of Cleaning Business Life, Shannon breaks down what really happens when there’s no structure, no boundaries, and no clear expectations.From being tak...
CBL EP 181 (1 of 3) Charity Cleaning Code of Conduct - The Standard You Don’t Break
Just because a cleaning is free… doesn’t mean the standard drops.And yet—that’s exactly what happens in this industry all the time.In this episode of Cleaning Business Life, Shannon breaks down the Charity Cleaning Cod...
CBL EP 180-Busy But Stuck: The Trap Keeping Cleaning Business Owners Small
Most cleaning business owners think that being busy means they’re successful.Full schedules. Long days. Constant movement.But here’s the truth—busy does not mean you’re building a business.In this episode of Cleaning Busine...
CBP EP 179-10 Systems to Fix Before Hiring Your First Cleaner
CBL EP 178-When Trust Is Broken: Theft Inside a Cleaning Business
What happens when the trust inside someone’s home is broken? In this episode, Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco discuss a real case involving a cleaning business owner accused of stealing jewelry from clients. They explore how theft impacts the en...
CBL EP 177 Systems = Freedom — The 3 Systems Every Cleaning Business Needs
Systems Build Freedom: The 3 Systems Every Cleaning Business NeedsMost cleaning business owners think systems are something you build after you grow.In reality, systems are what allow you to grow in the first place.<...
CBL EP 176 The Secret to Repeatable Quality in a Cleaning Business
In this episode of the Cleaning Business Life podcast, Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco discuss one of the biggest challenges cleaning business owners face: maintaining consistent quality as the company grows.Many cleaning companies start ...
CBL EP 175 Why Every Cleaning Business Needs an Email List | Liz Wilcox
In this episode of Cleaning Business Life, Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco welcome email marketing expert Liz Wilcox, often known as the “Email Marketing Queen.” Liz shares why email lists remain one of the most powerful assets a...
CBL EP 174 This Cleint Had To Go...
Firing a client isn’t the hard part — what happens after is.In this solo episode, Shannon Miller walks through the emotional and operational cleanup that determines whether firing a client strengthens your leadership or creates hesitatio...